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Preacher of Propriey 1/8/09 Is atheism the new fad? The new “IN” thing now?
Much like the new age fad back in the mid to late 80s and early 90's. Now it seems as that atheism has become more mainstream, probably caused by the hypocrisy of the religious right, and one’s intolerance to it.
Do You think Atheism will be followed by much greater personal spirituality? (one having a personal relationship with God as the he/she understands it), without all of the dogma, rules and regulations, rituals and such.
What do YOU think? Do you think atheism the new fad (the new IN thing)? Or do you think it’s here to stay? Or is it that we as a society have become more tolerant and accepting of other philosophical ideas, and consequently; they feel more comfortable to come out of the woodwork? Or have people proclaimed atheism because of their rebellion, intolerance, or from personal negative experiences by the religous right?
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Outside box thinker 6/9/10 Whenever someone comes to prostalize or witness to me. I want them to answer these qiestions;
1.What do you beleive, 2. why, and 3. why should I belive it too.
anonymous 3/11/10 atheism (to me) is an easy way to not care about religion or spirituality on a whole, I believe that certain people are put here on this planet at this time to learn something else. We all learn in our own time and we fear what we dont understand hence the bashing of those who think they know the truth. I do not condone any malicious words or actions against anyone of any faith because it is immoral. I believe that the end of days is a metaphor not an actual event, the past proves it so. We are not the only humans who have ever existed and to them within their life spans were concerned with the ending as well,had their predicted times and dates etc. SPIRITUALITY IS PERSONAL, religion is a way to be comfortable being part of a massive collection of others of like mind, it serves its purpose and gratefully so...to those who need it. Truth is the warmth of sunlight on your skin, god doesn't expect us to believe others but to believe what we ourselves have come to know through him/her..
Satya 10/19/09 I think that the influx of atheism is a reflection on the peoples growing dislike for the right wing and the christofaciest hippocracy in the USA
Lefty 10/9/09 I've not seen the proof myself but some really good sources have told me that they have the proof and they will gladly present it to me, that Mohammed (PBUH) was a murderer, a rapist, a wife beater, a child molester, and an adultrier. Who was probably hullisinating, tripping, or had his mind altered in some way when the angel Gabriel came to him to dictate to him the Koran. I also suspect that some of the writings were solely to control, and inhibit it's followers to question with some pretty bad consequences if they did.
So I'm not just picking on one religon.
But I do think ALL religons and organised faiths are inherently but unwhittingly evil.
The old saying; If you're not the lead dog, the view's always the same.
Lefty 10/8/09 There is NO proof that Jesus ever lived. There is NO documented proof of his existance, no firsthand accounts. He was myth. The Bible and other documents that describe him were written many generations later, and many of them were exaggerated.
It would be like trying to describe a family mamber many generations ago who I never know and only heard about. And was made into a legend or a myth. That's all Jesus was.
bill 9/7/09 BTW, I'm personally Agnostic. (1) I don't think any religion has ever meshed entirely with my own personal experiences, not one. (2) Spirituality is a bit like a raw egg in your hand -- don't grab it too tightly, or you'll have yolk everywhere and will have lost the egg.
bill 9/7/09 FWIW, read Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials", and while at it check out the link below:

nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm

The issue of atheism I've seen is centered on the domination of religions over all other forms of reason. That, I think, is the chief concern of the atheist belief, more than anything. At least check out the Thomas Jefferson quotes. His reasoning for the first ammendment is really fascinating.
Lefty 9/3/09 Or perhaps people are beginning to think for themselves and question athority?
lefty 7/10/09 like I said sheeple have been talking about the end times ever since the beginning times.
jesus boy 777 7/9/09 funny you should say that
the increase of knowledge is also a sign of the end
Daniel 12:4 - Knowledge shall increase and men shall run to and fro. KJV
i guess not all the signs are bad depending on how you look at it.
Lefty 7/9/09 The increase of atheism is a sign that people starting to think for themselves and question athorithy
jb 777 7/9/09 oh sorry

i have all the end time sings and were in the bible there found on my long post but here it is again

Some signs are

• Political signs
1. Israel’s independence (Matth. 24:32- 33)
2. Jerusalem’s liberation (Luke 21:24; Rev. 11:2)
3. Wars and tumults (Luke 21:9-10)

• Economic signs
1. Famines (Matth. 24:7)

• Geological Signs
1. Earthquakes (Luke 21:11)
2. Floods (Luke 21:11)

• Astronomical Signs
1. In sun, moon, and stars (Luke 21:25)
2. Powers of heaven moved (Luke 21:26)

• Psychological Signs
1. Perplexity of fear (Luke 21:25-26)

• Moral Signs
1. Conditions as in Sodom (Luke 17:26-30, for those who don’t know Sodom and its neighbor, Gomorra, were places destroyed by God for there sexual immorality)
2. Ungodliness (2Timothy 3:1-5; Jude 14-15)
3. Iniquity abounds (Matth. 24:12)

• Spiritual Signs
1. Gospel preached world-wide (Matth. 24:14)
2. Persecution of believers (Matth. 24:9-10)
3. False Messiahs and Prophets (Matth. 24:5, 11, 24)
4. Strong delusions (2Thess. 2:9-11; 2Tim. 4:3-4)
5. Unbelief (Luke 18:8; 1Tim. 4:1)
6. Apostasy and Mockery (2Thess. 2:3; 2Peter 3:3)
7. The “Man of Sin” rules (2Thess. 2:3-4; Matth. 24:15; Daniel 9:27, 11:36, 12:11; Rev. 13:5-7)

were it says unbelief it wasn't directed twords atheism, i couldn't find one that was only for athiesm.
Aironna 7/8/09 Exactly where in the Bible does it say these things?
jesus boy 77 7/8/09 oops i made a mistake
were i said disobeadiance in his teachings will start to fade i ment rise :P
Jesus boy 777 7/8/09 the bible teaches that disobeadiance in his teachings will start to fade so i'll admit it was wrong to narrow it down to just athiesm if i made it seem like that. how ever what other greater dis is there than to denie God?

please dont think im demonising athiesm cuz i got a lot of good athiest friends but sence you asked me the question that is my answer
Aironna 7/8/09 Exactly where in the Bible is it written that atheism is a sign of the end times?
Tabitha 7/8/09 I'm sure Lefty won't bother to read this dribble any more than any other person with a lick of sense. This is all complete bunk. Lefty said it right - People have been talking about the end of time since the beginning of time.

Yeah, it will come, in about 4 billion years when the Sun goes supernova!
jesus boy 777 7/8/09 i have something you might like lefty. there are links to videos on the web about supernatrul events and end of times. please read through them first befor you see the videos. note that im just sharing this information so if you don't want to read or watch it then thats your choice. i hate it when i do stuff like this and people say im forcing it on them.

This is a story told from Marry K Baxter about her divine encounter with Jesus about the realities of heaven and hell.

Divine revelation of hell
Part 1 (9:50)
youtube.com/watch?v=mBm9JRggXOY
Part 2 (3:39)
youtube.com/watch?v=eC1o5gOA5NI
Part 3 (8:59)
youtube.com/watch?v=D6eq9Obwy0Q
Part 4 (9:04)
youtube.com/watch?v=Yj_xmnZ9t4A
Part 5 (9:59)
youtube.com/watch?v=G64fa23Bogo
Part 6 (10:00)
youtube.com/watch?v=-0wzbqy3Cp8
Part7 (10:00)
youtube.com/watch?v=x4y8Ns4cZn8
Part 8 (6:24)
youtube.com/watch?v=LKskvg5wbF8
Part 9 (9:31)
youtube.com/watch?v=TJhi9puPgUY
Part 10 (10:00)
youtube.com/watch?v=YWTIHswhj80
Part 11 (9:55)
youtube.com/watch?v=i-zbU4iD-mg
Part 12 (9:54)
youtube.com/watch?v=xXoS24ZfMr8
Part 13 (9:54)
youtube.com/watch?v=JIoEOHaudxg
Part 14 (9:46)
youtube.com/watch?v=leTuBYEdbjE

Divine revelation of heaven
Chapter 1 (9:28)
youtube.com/watch?v=hSu6VwzGfZ0
Chapter 2 (5:27)
youtube.com/watch?v=Hi0xi-co87Q
Chapter 3 (6:13)
youtube.com/watch?v=-5TWp6WeogE
Chapter 4 (5:54)
youtube.com/watch?v=9Fc4QwCZ_sY
Chapter 5 (5:34)
youtube.com/watch?v=74OkyqJDIu8
Chapter 6 (5:25)
youtube.com/watch?v=V7-I7TAxd2E
Chapter 7 & 8 (6:07)
youtube.com/watch?v=2aXFw2FGPko
Chapter 9 & 10 (8:05)
youtube.com/watch?v=WMbp37aHcw0
Chapter 11, 12, & 13 (9:09)
youtube.com/watch?v=8ylIGS5Q1NQ
Chapter 14 (2:31)
youtube.com/watch?v=Y1sKqoHGSzE

Interview of Marry K Baxter on Hell and Heaven
Part 1 (9:36)
youtube.com/watch?v=-9oSHQ3HGq0
Part 2 (9:36)
youtube.com/watch?v=0NXTvhXz5hI
Part 3 (9:10)
youtube.com/watch?v=1r5DGxAiUzQ

You can also find testimonies like hers at
spiritlessons.com/

Angels Singing in China
godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1a1991cc72261ff22082
You can find this recording and others at choicesforliving.com/spirit/angels/angels.htm

This interview is from Don Piper, a man who died and came back from heaven.
youtube.com/watch?v=54qs3A8Yy8o
You can learn more from his experience form his book 90 minutes in heaven.

This testimony is from Deborah Shambora. At first I thought her testimony was a little crazy but when I heard about the activities of angels and how the objects they use were the same as what Marry K Baxter saw them doing it questioned my doubt.
youtube.com/watch?v=KDaz5AHre6M

This clip shows an angelic miracle, on dec.25 2008, with witnesses and an actual picture of the angel. Note there was no source of light around that could cause the image.
youtube.com/watch?v=Ht-LmPawgpA

The bible warns us that near the end a stream of supernatural events will partake before the seven year tribulation (see the book of Revelations, the last book in the bible) & Jesus’ soon return (see Acts 2:17)

Some signs are

• Political signs
1. Israel’s independence (Matth. 24:32- 33)
2. Jerusalem’s liberation (Luke 21:24; Rev. 11:2)
3. Wars and tumults (Luke 21:9-10)

• Economic signs
1. Famines (Matth. 24:7)

• Geological Signs
1. Earthquakes (Luke 21:11)
2. Floods (Luke 21:11)

• Astronomical Signs
1. In sun, moon, and stars (Luke 21:25)
2. Powers of heaven moved (Luke 21:26)

• Psychological Signs
1. Perplexity of fear (Luke 21:25-26)

• Moral Signs
1. Conditions as in Sodom (Luke 17:26-30, for those who don’t know Sodom and its neighbor, Gomorra, were places destroyed by God for there sexual immorality)
2. Ungodliness (2Timothy 3:1-5; Jude 14-15)
3. Iniquity abounds (Matth. 24:12)

• Spiritual Signs
1. Gospel preached world-wide (Matth. 24:14)
2. Persecution of believers (Matth. 24:9-10)
3. False Messiahs and Prophets (Matth. 24:5, 11, 24)
4. Strong delusions (2Thess. 2:9-11; 2Tim. 4:3-4)
5. Unbelief (Luke 18:8; 1Tim. 4:1)
6. Apostasy and Mockery (2Thess. 2:3; 2Peter 3:3)
7. The “Man of Sin” rules (2Thess. 2:3-4; Matth. 24:15; Daniel 9:27, 11:36, 12:11; Rev. 13:5-7)

remember, you chosed to read it, i didn't force you
Lefty 7/8/09 Also people or should I say Sheeple have been talking about the end times ever since the beginning times
Lefty 7/8/09 Dear Jesusboy 777; There are many other books then just the Bible to read.
I was a very close minded Christian, at one time but since then I have read the bible from cover to cover (genesis to Revelations), I have also read the Korean, and Bhavadad Gita, The Book of Morman, and some of (not yet all) the Talmud. And the Other books and publications as well. I since put them all down because that all tell the same things, just diffenently.
I am especially appalled by religous followers (and you know if you are not the lead dog the views always the same) claiming to be the only right and true faith. (whatever that means),
To me athesium means that people are starting to think for themselves.
Reciently someone said publically at a meeting that the Bible was an acronym for "Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth". Well that may all well and good but NOT true I am Not going to stone my wife to death on her our wedding dat if she is not a virgin. And burning bulls; the aroma may be may be pleasing to god but not at all pleasing to me or my neighbors and especially PETA.
And if you want to really talk the Bible; Jesus was a socialist, the 666 in the bible is organised Religon, Capitalism, and the major corperations. The mark of the beast is our unwhittingly submitting to all of them.
I dont want to go to heaven if sheeple like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, John Hegee, and thier followers are all going to be there. Jeesh just imagine having to spend the rest of eternity those wack jobs. That's NOT heavin at all.
jesus boy 777 7/7/09 i don't control anyone. if anything people yell at me saying my religion is wrong just because i like reading my bible, i did nothing to them but they sure bother me. anyway i think everyone has some part of it to blame christian or not, it's immature to point fingers so i'll take the blame for my part of earth misery and help out any way i can to those who need it.
Tabitha 7/7/09 And we will be very happy to see you go. Most of the misery you mention is caused by people like you trying to control the free thinking of others.
Jesus Boy 777 7/7/09 i think athiesm is a sign that the end is near. the bible (and other holy books) tells us that near the end disbelief in god will rise. Athiest are still a minority but there voice is getting louder. i have no problems with athiest but i do fell a tad bit sorry for them. they don't have the peace like people of religon do & the hope of meeting there creator who loves them oh so much. anyways it might sound wierd but im glad athiesm is rising cuz like i said it is one of the signs the end is near and as of right now im ready to get out of this miserable reality and go into the one god has for us, HEAVEN!!!!!