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IceAngel 3/11/05 I have been meditating lately on some of my difficulties such as health, physical and mental, Im not sure which <how to word this> well, im looking for sugestions I am a beginner I have much to learn I know I am limited financialy and location thus I have no resources for ataining my information about <pagan in general> wicca meditation candle magick ect.... any sugestions or information will be greatly apreciated blessed be!
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Mark 1/18/08 Good grief! I noticed some old posts of mine in this thread from 2-3 years ago. That was certainly Ego running the show. I devoutly hope that I have learned a little humility by now.
Please forgive me.


Love and Light
Mark
annerose 1969 11/15/07 buy a book on aura and illuminate yourself in the healing colors.good health fellow wiccan
Mark 4/26/05 Good to hear from you again. You are not alone in feeling held back or your spirituality frustrated. Many people I know are feeling this at the moment including myself.
Sometimes words and messages for you flow into my head like smooth whipped cream at my guides prompting, but at the moment my head feels like it is full of mud and I get confused over what these thoughts mean and who is sending them, making my postings sound stilted.

Interestingly, my work involves work with socially excluded kids (nasty kids who were booted out of school in everyday language)and they too, seem awfully tense and liable to explode at the slightest provocation at the moment.
This behaviour is usually reserved only for windy days (honest), but wind or no wind lately and BAM all hell breaks loose. I had to expel 2 lads only today for violence against other students.

I liked to hear that you were excited over your new alter, seems that not too long ago you would not have had the energy to be excited, so I pronounce you well on your way to a better life, whatever you have been doing is working fine. Believe in yourself and God/ess will not let you down EVER.

Love and Light
Mark
Starfire 4/26/05 Also I wanted to add; Welcome to the club, it seems that we are all limited finacialy, and my location is also really bad, I call it Jesusville.
Some of the people who call themselves Christian in my neck of the woods are worse then the K.K.K. But thats where wisdom comes into play. After all Wicca comes from the word "wit" which means wise. It really boils down to the word "Wisecraft" or "The Craft of the Wise".
Good luck.
May the God/Dess be always with you.
MM,MP&MMA so mote it be.
Starfire 4/25/05 A few good books are Autobiography of a Yoga by Yogananda. All books by Yogananda will help to give you some insight on meditating.
Other books that are good are To Ride a Silver Broomstick by Silver Ravenwolf, another excellant book is Spiral Dance by Starhawk, some people think that her book is too feminine, in fact; some men hate it because of that. Then there's Wicca For the Solitary Practitioner. Personaly, I also like all the books by Gerald Gardener.
Those books should give you some insight on the Craft. And they should keep you buzy for a little while. If you read and practice some of the suggestions in the books you should be a professional wiccan in no time. ha ha LOL:-)
No; in actuallity after you read them, you will definantly be well on your way to becomming a learned wiccan and mabye someday a high priestess.



IceAngel 4/25/05 Wow,Hi, I was able to post. I have hit a bit of a well for lack of better terms spiritual block. My mother is becoming very ill and my stress has been shooting through the roof.. I need to get back to meditating, I am rather excited about my new little stand I got I am atempting to make my first altar, It is realy nice. I am not sure where to go mentaly or spiritualy at the moment. I really need to buy some books.... I have none..... this is where I am right now in life... and Its a bit frustrating at times... I look foward to hearing from you If I think of anything else I will write more. Love and warm wishes IceAngel
IceAngel 4/25/05 I have not been able to respond I am checking agin. Its good to hear from you.
Mark 4/23/05 I Ice angel, Just doing my check in. You have not been left out of my thoughts.

Time to take another step? I think my guide is telling me you have fallen back a little and it is time to start anew, though I am not clear on exactly what this means.


Love and light

Mark
Mark 4/16/05 Just checking in IceAngel, Remember I am still here if you need to talk, or need guidance.
I have just finished fighting off a major attack by negative forces and it seems a great many of my spiritually aware friends are struggling with this feeling of doom and gloom too.

Strange things are afoot and there is a feeling of been held down spiritually, but we will not give up the fight, so if you have felt a little down lately, don't dispair, good will triumph eventually. in the meantime keep meditating and cleansing your aura and youll be fine.


Love and Light
Mark


Mark 4/4/05 Not heard from you for awhile Iceangel, I hope you are ok.

Love and Light
Mark
Starfire 3/30/05 One book that I like alot and I think you might like it is Autobiography of a Yoga by Parahamansa Yogananda, he also authored some other books that I like alot. I suggest you checking them out.
Mark 3/28/05 Dear Iceangel
Thank you for your very kind words and for placing your trust in me.
However, it is now time for a cautionary tale...

You have come a long on your journey back to the light and are doing very well.
Your guides and mine(remember you are never alone and quite often it is my guides that put the words into my mind for you); are working extremely hard to heal you.
However as you start to feel this healing process starting to work, it is only natural for you to want it to work faster and are prepared to take greater risks in order to facilitate this. This unfortunately leaves you very vulnerable at this point in your recovery and negative people may well try to take advantage. A phrase I once heard was that it is easy to scam a greedy person and impossible to swindle one who is not.
Remember that you are on a long path to recovery and I will accompany you as far as I am able to, offering guidance to keep you on the right path and sending love and healing thoughts to buoy up your spirits. However I, nor anyone else can heal you, your healing must come from inside yourself.
Beware and mistrust anyone who can offer a quick remedy, more so if it involves money, also you may have karma issues that require to be worked off slowly.
That is why I will NEVER ask for your email address, beware of any one else pretending to be me asking for it too.

You are doing great as you are; remember, just one step at a time.
Your guides are working hard for you, don't forget to acknowledge and thank them.

A good book for you to read at this moment in your recovery is Richard Bach's ILLUSIONS - the adventures of a reluctant messiah. It is a novel, not heavy reading and quite a fun tale, but puts things into some perspective. Everytime I re-read it, it tells me something new. My copy has done the rounds of all my friends and work colleagues, who all loved it and I am told it has finally fallen apart, so it has done sterling work.

ONE STEP AT A TIME

Love and Light
Mark
IceAngel 3/27/05 lol oopsie almost forgot merry meet and merry part!
IceAngel 3/27/05 Thanks for the helpfull information that makes sence to me, I never really thought of it that way. You are such a blessing and I thank the god and goddess for your uplifting words. I feel a bit stronger every day. I continue my search for the right path and i apreciate any help along the way tho i shall struggle i have faith i will acomplish what i need to. If you wish to contact me further im verry interested in your thoughts my email adress is available just ask for it
Mark 3/25/05 Hi Iceangel

Looking at your recent posting you appear to have solved some of your problems yourself, without realising it.

You say that you love helping others, but they take so much you are left feeling drained.
This is very true in the spiritual sense - when you try to help people, you do give them part of your life energy, trying to lift their vibrations to a higher level and temporarily lowering yours to a lower one.

Imagine a series of water vessels with water flowing in at the top, and out of the bottom through an open tap.
Usually the amount flowing in and out is equal and the water level remains the same inside this vessel and everything is in harmony.
Occasionaly, bad Karma, greed or some other problem befalls a vessel and they have to pay this debt by selling some of their water. This leaves the vessel feeling unhappy.
Another helpful vessel tries to help and opens its outflow tap fully and diverts the water into the top of the unhappy friend. this raises the water level in the friend and makes it feel a little happier.
The helpful one has lost a little water, but should soon be able to make it back up, as Karma will pay back a small portion as a reward. Sadly the friend has not learned and makes the same mistake again, knowing the helpful vessel will help them again and the cycle repeats, unfortunately Karma fines the friend more, each time the cycle repeats and the helpful vessel, having helped so much, suddenly finds itself without any water at all.
Without water it is unable to help itself, never mind anyone else and the vessel falls into a deep, deep depression, lacking the strength to even face the new day.
The selfish friend is disappointed with the vessel because it can no longer help and starts to say hurtful things, destroying the helpful vessel's self esteem too.
What was once a strong, caring vessel has now hit rock bottom.

The only way back up is to build up the water level one drip at a time and carefully weighing up just how deserving a person is of a portion of your hard earned water.

Moral of the tale - ensure you have enough water to spend helping others before you consider doing it and know when to stop. It is impossible to help everyone.

Happily, a person I once knew had ovarian cysts and feared she could not get pregnant. 10 years on and she is happily married with two children. You are right about having the responsibility of kids, they drink more water than anything else I know of.

That tugging you describe is God and your guides tugging you gently back into the fold, guiding you to the knowledge you need to recover :-)
Bless you God and Iceangel's guides for helping her so strongly.

keep up the good work

Love and Light
Mark
IceAngel 3/25/05 thank you Mark, You are a truly beautifull person. I don't know you you do it but some of your words just speak to my soul, I apreciate the encouragement as I am in need, I love helping others but I often end up sacrificing too much of myself is the only way i can think to describe it, I have nothing left for myself, I need to get better I believe before I can truly help any one else, It is true It seems soo hard at first some of the things start to fall into place and with a little effort you can keep them running smoothly <mostly> hehehe I also think Ive lost a little bit of weight in my struggle to get healthy. One of my major concerns I'm facing now is I want to be a mommy, not right this second but I fear I may not be able to concieve due to some cysts on my ovaries, It pains me so, I cry inside every time i see a baby, i know tho that i need to be able to accept the full responsibility of a child before I should have one I think. I feel so lost some times and everytime I take another step maybe just read or find a new info site I feel stronger mentaly and spiritualy. I dont know how or why but the tuging at my heart I cant ignore nor do I wish to, In good time my knowlege will improve, thank you for your suport Its nice to know some one cares and may know a bit how I may feel at times I feel traped alot and I no longer can stand it. Im searching for myself i supose, searching for who im suposed to be, I have no meaning in this life as far as i see but.... my path is well a bit cloudy to me still... /smile /huggs I am verry exausted I bid you farwell... untill next we talk love and warm wishes <IceAngel>
Mark 3/23/05 I am very pleased that you continue to feel better.

It is important to keep in mind that every journey begins with a single step, unfortunately our mind quite often makes taking this first step seem an incredibly difficult thing to do.
However, as with most things in life, once you have taken this step, you wonder what all the fuss was about.
While you are still feeling proud about your achievements, set yourself another goal for tommorrow and the day after.

You may find it useful, if you feel that you will not be able to mangage the next goal you have set; to write your future self a letter, setting out your next goal and describe just how good you are feeling at the moment, after having just completed the last goal.

Every journey is just a series of steps, the size of those steps does not matter, big steps or small, a journey is still a journey.

Feel free to post your questions and concerns whenever you feel the need, I will always post a reply for you, if I know how to help.
Helping others is genuinely good for the soul, however always remember to act on advice only if it feels right for you, rejecting that which doesn't.

I wish you well with you journey and that you find the inner peace which you are searching for.

Any one else out there who feels they can help Iceangel?


Love and Light
Mark
IceAngel 3/22/05 Thank you all, my new step recently has been, <may seem trivial but hey!> Im the worst procrastinator and well my house work needs improving but Ive found that I feel much healthier and more capable since following the advice meditation has been a blessing, I cleaned my living room and I felt good about it I didnt hesitate i just got up and did it.<depression holds you back some times> but I have decided to no longer let those be my boundaries.I never knew how wonderfull it felt to talk about these thoughts and concerns and get feedback so thank you all for your helpfull advice and loving words <whisper> my next project is my bedroom. mm & mp be back as soon as I can I hope for you all the best that can be bye for now
Mark 3/17/05 Hi IceAngel

I nearly forgot to mention in case you do not know. Everything is in balance and harmony and you are a part of everything else too, so before you experiment with spells, please note that everything has to be earned or paid for.

If you wish for something you have already earned, you will probably be granted it ok.

If you have wished for something you have not earned,but there is a lesson in it for you; you may receive it but have to pay for it from another area of your life.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY THE PIPER.

Example:

with regard to my previous posting:

You may be feeling the pinch moneywise, so you cast a spell to let you win the lottery.
Fine if you have earned the right to do this by your thoughts and deeds, why not live a life without strife until you pass over, if you have learned everything you came to this earth to discover. your wish will be granted.
However then you will be tested on how you use your money.
Do you use part of your new found money, power and influence for the greater good, or do you use it to buy expensive diamonds, which are just pieces of compressed carbon, to feed your vanity?

If you have become greedy and materialistic, you may also be granted this wish if you can learn from it. The sting in the tale could well be that you could lose the person closest to you to a terminal disease and withdraw into a hermit like existence, without love and friends, but with millions in the bank, a huge dianond tiara and a Mercedes in the garage. To me this would be a living hell.

You may ask about the poor person who passed over. Before he came to earth, he agreed to do this for you, in order for this particular lesson to be learned, if neccessary.
It is you that is stuck here, he went home.

With great power comes greater responsibility.


Love and Light
Mark
Mark 3/17/05 Hi Iceangel
I am so glad that meditation is working for you and is helping you with your depression.
You are right in that you have realised that you have been on a journey since before the universe began and one that will never, ever end, it just gets better and better, the more you learn.
That is why you are currently on earth, to learn hard lessons which may not be teachable in spirit, due to the fact that there, you KNOW you are an immortal being.
One of the lessons I believe we all need to learn on earth is faith in God / ess, universal being or what your personal name for this power is.

Another difficult lesson in this particular timeframe we live in, is that money and material things are worthless without friends,family and loved ones to share it with.
Notice that people on TV house hunting programmes that find they can suddenly afford a holiday home, always talk of having family and friends over to visit,when deciding on a house? Never of how the house is built or how thay may need to fit more cars in the garage.

Anything worthwhile is never easy to come by, that is why life on earth is fraught with difficulties, but remember that with every problem you encounter, you also been given the power to solve it.
Even very spiritually aware people do not find life easy, but at least we can accept why it is hard.

I trust that you know how to ground yourself before you meditate, how to protect yourself when in meditation and how to close yourself down afterwards (very important).

I wish you well with your studies.

Love and Light
Mark
Starfire 3/16/05 One book in perpicular that I like alot, he talks alot about medatating it's called
IceAngel 3/16/05 Wow, thank you both so much, that really touched my heart, I believe strongly that I am on the right path I am working on diminishing any doubt. I have a real problem with depression and ever since I have been studying and meditating I have become less stressed and more cheerfull, I think im sleeping a bit better too. I know it will be a lifelong journey and I wish to gradualy better myself and what ever I set out to do, I wish to be more in touch with nature as I cherish it I dont alwasy respect nature. I shall continualy improve is what I hope, any sugestions or knowledge shared with myself I aprecaite verry much. I shall do my best to harm none always keeping in mind the wiccan reed mm&mp
Starfire 3/13/05 Do so thou wilt but Do harn to nene.
I validate being careful what you pray for, because you might just get what you pray for. I prayed that God/dess would help me to stop smoking; Well I got what I prayed for; I was in an auto accident, died and was brought back to life, and was in a coma for several months. And have brain damage. BUT I NO LONGER SMOKE.
There are many books, literature as well as many websites like this one for example check them out.
Just do yourself a favor and be careful when meeting other wiccans you dont know because some people might try to take advantage of you and your lack of Magical and Wiccam knowledge. EX. especially if you are a pretty lady, some men could try to make moves at you sexually and say it's part of you magical trainning. That most likely wont happen to you but I know that it has happend before and could happen again.
I wish you the best in your endevours. My prayers are with you.
Mark 3/13/05 Hi
Pracicing meditation is good as a first step as it relaxes both the body and the mind.
Some practising magik may disagree with me on the next point, if they do then take their advice as I am no expert and do not practice magik. But as a pagan/spiritualist i feel that to a certain extent, the candles etc are just a focus for the mind to concentrate its thoughts on and do not actively participate in the spell.
One thing is very clear though - be very careful of what you wish for, be very, very specific and do not generalise. You may get just what you asked for.

Example

You may wish for someone to really love you and not be able to do without you.
This person suddenly falls in love with you, he can't eat, can't sleep, packs in his job because he can't handle being separated from you for a minute. you feel hounded and stalked, get a court injunction against him to stay away, and he cannot handle life anymore, puts a gun in his mouth and pulls the trigger.
You would have some serious Karma issues to address, because you were not specific enough.

Any witches out there who can help start Iceangel off safely?


Love and Light
Mark
IceAngel 3/13/05 any help? I really would apreciate it!